A correspondent, friend, and fellow blogger who’s been relentlessly attacked through the courts by a disturbed neighbor (over a period now spanning years) sent a link to the YouTube vid “The Grand Poobah” last week. It’s a 2011 “interview” between men’s rights activist Ben Vonderheide (a.k.a. “Daddy Justice”) and Rita Smith, former executive director of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence (NCADV), an influential Colorado-based nonprofit.
(Note: The word in the video’s title should be spelled “poohbah,” after a comic opera character whose name was probably formed from the interjections pooh + bah. Mr. Vonderheide’s spelling it “poobah” might have been an accident—or it might have been on purpose.)
The setting of the interview, which would more aptly be called an exchange of words, isn’t clear, but it seems to be a post-conference mix-and-mingle. Mr. Vonderheide takes issue with the NCADV’s feminine bias and the propagandist tenor of the factsheets it publishes, which aren’t uncommonly cited by feminist advocates.
As the quotation in this post’s title suggests, the questions he poses to Ms. Smith aren’t favorably received. Those questions regard the NCADV’s disinclination to acknowledge maternal child abuse (Ms. Smith: “It’s not our focus of work”), as well as its denial that false accusations of domestic violence are a serious problem, false accusations that Mr. Vonderheide alleges are “promoted by [the NCADV’s] budget.”
Daddy Justice’s interview style (à la Michael Moore) is obtrusive—he’s plainly crashed the party—but while Mr. Vonderheide is necessarily assertive, the worst you could say of his questions is that they’re confrontational. They’re nevertheless called “abusive” and “aggressive,” and he’s prodded to leave.
The grudging answers his questions prompt before he’s rebuffed don’t provide much informational grist for the mill, but to his allegation that more than 80% of restraining orders are based on false accusations, Ms. Smith significantly counters that her facts say it’s only “2% of the time” (and she urges Mr. Vonderheide to “stop lying”). Later she revises her estimate of the number of false accusations from 2% to “2 to 5%,” dismissively, despite the fact that if, say, 2,000,000 restraining orders are petitioned a year (and the total may be much higher), the extra 3% translates to the invasion, disruption, and possible dismantling of 60,000 innocent defendants’ lives, besides those of their children and others peripheral to the mischief.
A mere 5% false allegation rate means the victimization of 100,000 (or many more) innocent people per year (again, not including ambient casualties). Anecdotal reports, of course—including from judges and attorneys—put the false allegation rate 6 to 18 times higher than 5% (30 to 90%). It just depends who you’re asking.
Even a ridiculously conservative false allegation rate like the posited 5% plainly recommends legislative reform, because there’s absolutely no accountability in the restraining order process. False accusers aren’t punished, and damages from false allegations aren’t remediable by lawsuit. Additional false claims can what’s more be lodged almost immediately by the same accusers using the same process. There’s no statutory ceiling on the number of orders a single complainant may apply for. (Some victims of procedural abuse report spending tens of thousands of dollars to fend off one petition only to throw up their hands—and in cases forfeit their custody entitlements—when a second comes down the pike a few months later. See here for an example.)
It should be appreciated, too, that any audit-derived estimate of the number of false allegations can only be based on allegations that are recorded as false (by “somebody”). No official false allegation rate accounts for the number of times false allegations succeed or the number of times cases based on them are simply “dismissed” without comment.
In other words, false allegations may well be rampant or “epidemic” (a word favored by anti-domestic-violence advocates), and there would be no record that says so.
The nyah-nyah from the title—“We have research; you have bullshit”—deserves reflection, also. (It doesn’t come from Ms. Smith, incidentally, but from an unidentified confederate who can’t resist a Parthian shot at Mr. Vonderheide before she and the “Grand Poobah” turn their backs to him). The “research” that advocacy groups posit is survey-based, that is, it amounts to responses to questionnaires that are administered to sample groups and then extrapolated to the population as a whole. Even this survey data we must take on faith.
Appreciate that conducting “research” of this sort depends on means, which depend on money, which is only allocated to groups like the NCADV. Consider:

The NCADV’s reported income for 2011 was $643,797, down about $70,000 from the previous year. Ms. Smith’s salary was $74,586.
Among the programs toward which the NCADV’s 2011 budget was dedicated were “General Program – provides information to educate and inform the general public about domestic violence” ($240,991), “Public Policy – works in collaboration with other national organizations to affect societal response to domestic violence through public education and coalition building, monitors federal legislation, and contacts legislators regarding domestic violence issues” ($88,808), “Membership – publishes a newsletter and provides networking opportunities for individuals and organizations interested in the work to empower battered women and their children” ($67,607), “Child custody – provides resources, referrals and support to advocates working with victims of domestic violence involved in family court cases with their abusers also provides resources to victims, attorney, and family members when family court issues are present” ($97,402).
In contrast to the social largesse enjoyed by groups like the NCADV, no money is allocated for the administration of surveys to determine, for example, incident rates of depression, drug or alcohol abuse, stress-related injuries, or suicide proximal to being falsely accused; no surveys appraise the resulting lost earnings and assets; and no surveys attempt to measure the hits taken by health insurance providers as a result. Prognosis of the long-term consequences to the welfare and life prospects of injured children is, moreover, impossible. Worse, it’s not even considered, which casts rather a long shadow on the purported “mission” of groups like the NCADV to protect kids.
Clearly, that motive is context-specific.
Daddy Justice makes up for the lack of information his “interview” questions elicit with quotations interposed between snippets of footage. Here are some of them:
- “Everyone knows restraining orders…are granted to virtually all who apply.” […] “In many cases, allegations of abuse are used for tactical advantage” (Elaine Epstein, former president of the Massachusetts Bar Association).
- “Restraining orders are now considered part of the ‘gamesmanship of divorce’” (Illinois Bar Journal, 2005).
- “In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases” (American Journal of Public Health, May 2007).
- “Women were slightly more likely than men to use one or more acts of physical aggression and to use such acts more frequently” (Psychological Bulletin, 26, No. 5, pp. 651-680).
- “Leading sociologists have repeatedly found that men and women commit violence at similar rates” (Law Professor Linda Kelly, 2003).
- “More women than men engage in controlling behavior in their current marriages” (Violence and Victims, 22, Issue 4, 2007).
- “Of all persons who suffer injuries from partner aggression, 38% are male” (Dr. John Archer, Psychological Bulletin).
- “There is no doubt that this law [Ohio’s domestic violence statute] has been abused” (Judge Nadine Allen of Hamilton County, Ohio).
- “Standards for proving abuse have been so relaxed that any man who stands accused is considered guilty” (Cheryl Hanna, William and Mary Law Review).
- “Women are nine times more likely to report domestic violence than male victims” (National Family Violence Survey).
- “85% of temporary restraining orders are filed against men” (Cathy Young, “Domestic Violence: An In-Depth Analysis,” 2005).
- “Many judges view restraining orders as ‘a rubber-stamping exercise,’ and subsequently hearings are ‘usually a sham’” (Attorney Arnold Rutkin, Family Advocate, Winter 1996).
- “The mere allegation of domestic violence may shift the burden of proof to the defendant” (Massachusetts Law Weekly, 1995).
Notable is that cited remarks from legal experts that categorically define the restraining order process as prejudiced, if not an outright abomination against rudimentary civil rights and principles of law, may be a decade or decades old. Rhetorical stances like the NCADV’s aren’t fooling anybody in the know, and they haven’t for a long time. But they continue to dominate political debate. They’re heeded because they’re supposed to be. Not coincidentally, women’s advocates hold the keys to the treasury.
The value of Mr. Vonderheide’s video, finally, isn’t in the information it educes or even the information it asserts but the psychological study it offers of the women behind the dogma and the sway they exercise on public perception. His questions, only impeachable as indelicate, inspire predictable reactions: antagonism, levity, or disdain.
According to tried and true method (a method both practiced and preached), the “self-reliant” feminist women who are the targets of Mr. Vonderheide’s questions register alarm. These deniers of false allegations and undue hysteria…call the police.
Copyright © 2015 RestrainingOrderAbuse.com
*Daddy Justice’s videos can be found here.
Anon
June 2, 2015
That is so sad. My family has also experienced trouble with this. Several years ago my brother cane home and heard “sounds” which indicated his wife was in the process if cheating on him. He backed out to the porch and called the cops, asked if adultery was a crime in that state. They told him it was so he said he wanted to report his wife. He waited on the porch and police arrived to break up the party; while talking to him they received radio notice that Hus wife had called in a protective order against him. The cops laughed. The order was processed and he was barred from a house he co-owned and put immense money and sweat equity into. She drug out the divorce and held his property hostage, preventing him from gaining access to important documents to do things like file his taxes. Also, he had to keep paying the mortgage until the divorce was final. He gave up fighting and basically walked away with nothing but the clothes on his back. Then, years after he finally met someone new. Three years later their relationship became bad because she became unstable due to health issues with her and her family. She would send him terrible texts and emails, hit him, threaten to kill herself, accuse him of cheating or pretending to love her. Then it got worse when he was offerred a better job in a new city; she accused him of wanting to leave her. She drank all day, disappeared for hours causing him, friends and family to worry and make calls before returning home where they had a big argument. She came in swinging and yelling and he tried to escape but she blocked all exits. He was afraid to touch her in any way (while not large, he’s former military and she’s a tiny thing). But he did remove her hands from yoking him and in trying to get her off him she was pushed. But she told officers her airway was never constricted. When she wouldn’t leave him alone he tossed a broom across her path; both agree that although it broke it never touched her. She kept screaming at him and he walked away, but then he got upset and threw a tantrum where he spit and shoved items off a counter (she claim s he threw them at her; he says no way, she was standing behind Jim and he swiped things off toward sink and splashed her with water to get her to stop (where they still lay when cops arrived), and wasn’t possible to hit her without going through him first. She then locked herself in the bathroom. It became her quiet and he became concerned because she had threatened to OD on her insulin before and it was stored in an adjacent closet. When knocked repeatedly with no response he popped the lock and opened the door asking if she was alright. She threw water in his face and ran out of the house. He went out and sat on the porch. She called the cops. They showed up talked with her for a long while, then asked my brother just two questions- did he spit? And did he push a knife block off the counter? He answered yes to both and was arrested. She knew about his prior PO and was quick to mention it. In her application for a new one, which was granted, she claims he beats her, holds guns to her head, and wounded her nose days before. There are pictures in social media which indicate that last item was a lie (or so small it didn’t show up in a photo). He has emails and texts archived that show she was the aggressor in many other situations. He has been in jail almost 30 days now, charged with domestic assault & battery and malicious bodily injury. The magistrate who arraigned him said there wasn’t enough to charge MBI, and asked the officer why; he said because of the push that happened to catch her in the neck. The judge asked if he had asked her if airway was ever obstructed; he replied yes, that she said no it never was. He said he just didn’t see MBI, but that’s how it’s written up so there you are. The supposed victim in this ongoing case had no visible wound or injury and sought no medical treatment. She was, however, real quick to contact the mother of his son to tell her that he broke her nose and beat her up real bad, that he was not just drinking (we know he’s an alcoholic) but also engaging in heavy drug use and she didn’t mean pot, and that he was driving around with his son as a passenger whilst intoxicated. He is indigent and was assigned a PD. He had arraignment, two bail hearings and a protective order hearing without ever once speaking with it seeing his PD. He wasn’t allowed to call his family who all live out of state. He sent a message through a friend to his son’s mother then to me. I was then able to contact the jail to ask for permission to have him call me so I could arrange for a lawyer and put his finances in order. If he gets a felony conviction his job offer will be rescinded because they can’t hire felons; he will lose his VA benefits. He is emotionally wrecked; he does not believe the system will help him. And why should he believe the truth would set him free? In the first instance, the cops laughed at him. As presumably did his cheating ex-wife who got control if what were supposed to be joint assets. And now his girlfriend who, knowing the system from filing a PO before, has become unstable and fabricated lies that could change his life. The cost us huge. He can work his current job so his only income is VA benefits. He will have to pay our $5000-7000 for his lawyer, base estimate. I have had to pay for his phone calls. His son will no get to see him this summer, and maybe not unsupervised, because of the things that were told to his son’s mom. His other sister and mom are stressed with worry, because if he gets convicted likely one or all of us will have to support him financially. This is so absurd it makes you want to laugh and sat it’s not real. But it is. Unfortunately, every word.
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Moderator
June 4, 2015
You’re a good brother and a good man, and he’s lucky to have your support. It’s ungodly that lives can be picked apart like this. For what little it’s worth, you guys have my every good hope.
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Joel Bond Gunch
January 16, 2015
Jeez, Todd, the world gets insaner by the hour. I am absolutely certain now that the NC appellate courts engaged in malfeasance in my own case not only in appeasement of militant feminism but also out of greed for the billions in VAWA bribes flowing out of Washington, DC. Ample evidence proves that when the courts and legislature of a state balk at doing Washington’s bidding, the threats come fast and furious that “You’re going to lost that big wad of cash we were about to send you if you don’t toe the line.”
When the issue of this bribery comes up during legislative sessions, or before university administrations coerced to accept draconian Title IX procedures in sexual assault hearings, the Bill of Rights gets hung out to twist in the wind.
Sen. James Buckley (also a former judge of the DC Court of Appeals) has written a book assailing the feds for this racketeering, bribery, and extortion. Here is an op-ed by Buckley:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/james-l-buckley-how-congress-bribes-states-to-give-up-power-1419541292
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Moderator
January 16, 2015
Larry, can you provide this lady with any information? She’s writing from North Carolina.
http://restrainingorderabuse.com/restraining-order-q-a/#comment-54632
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Joel Bond Gunch
January 16, 2015
She needs a lawyer because, by her own admission, she has violated a court order by letting her husband violate it. The system breaks down if the plaintiff in a DV case decides just to vacate the order on her own. I can’t advise her. The bar here in NC would just loooove to prosecute me for PLWAL.
I went and looked at that long queue of your Q&A sessions until my eyesight went blurry. Jeez, it reminds me of waaay back when I practiced law — and family law was the artery clogger of the lawyers, and the stroke inducer, and the drive-me-to-drink part of the practice of law. People get themselves into such tangled webs of confused and complicated messes, that sometimes there is no way to extricate them. They just don’t know how to keep out of trouble, even gravitate to it out of some perverse desire to entangle themselves, again and again. Like moths to a candle. My advice to men, which they never accept: Stay away from women, especially brawling women. If you need stimulating, use your hand. LOL. And women, stay away from men, especially brawling men. And don’t evah evah nevah let your husband come back home on Christmas Eve to spend the night in violation of a DV order. (BTW, how did he get booze on Christmas day when the liquor stores were closed?)
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Moderator
January 17, 2015
You’re a font of facts, Larry. It’s so hard even to track all of this. I think that’s why the same ‘ol, same ‘ol stays the status quo.
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Anne Copeland
January 14, 2015
I was just thinking also that women carry the children in their bodies for nine months (most of the time) and go through the pain of childbirth, while men get to participate in the fun part of making the child. So women feel they have more invested in their children which is not justifiable in reality, but I am sure lots of them feel that way. And if they have spent time at home nursing a child or caring for it when it is sick or hurt, etc. while the husband is out doing what he needs to do, that also heightens that feeling. And many, if not most women are “nesters,” and home is all-important for them, and of course along with that go the children. They generally tend to have a very protective sense about their children (though I know many women don’t). And it is true that there are some natural women bitches in this world. They could be feminists, they could be lesbians (no offense intended), and they could be bipolar or schizophrenic. There are women who are serial killers, women who have murdered their children, but there are also men who do the same things. So again, I am not sure that we can totally designate one sex or the other as more abused, or more likely to so something. Remember too that statistics are never totally accurate as there is a lot that never gets documented in any way at all even though it is legitimate. Children who get abused seldom get a chance to make it public, and men who get raped or beaten by others seldom tell because they feel ashamed and powerless, and women similarly often will not tell. Yes, I am a woman, but I am trying to think of the bigger picture in this whole issue. Thanks again for good discussion materials. I am sorry for the typos in my first piece. These old fingers tend to go where they want to and I am often shocked these days to see something that made good sense when I was writing it turn into garbage and I forget to read it before I send it.
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Anne Copeland
January 14, 2015
I suspect that females are more likely to file the R.,).’s because there are no stigmas attached – socially or culturally. Men are raised with that “Big Boys don’t cry” stuff and unfortunately, it causes many problems later in life, as most of know. And women are raised with the “Women are the weaker sex” and this has been going on for centuries. Some of the women fought back and became oddly masculine, while the larger percentage (in my mind) continues to see themselves as the weaker sex, and therefore the ultimate victims. I think there is a whole part of the female population that believes that men get more pay, better jobs and opportunities, and get treated generally as being less important. I am not (or at least I think I am not) a feminist per se, but I do believe everyone should have equal rights for equal work, etc. And I like men very much – my best friends are equally women and men.
I have read some women’s history stuff, and in the 1800’s and thru the women’s suffragette movement, if a woman owned property, as soon as she married, it became her husband’s and she had no rights to say how it might be dealt with. It is unfortunate that society has set this up and now it is coming to its fruition. Why we have had sexually designated roles throughout history is puzzling to me. It has been clearly shown in present times that women can serve in the military and do good jobs, fly planes, and go into space. I think of the women writers and artists who have dressed up as males because they didn’t get the recognition they deserved as females.
So I see this not totally as what we are seeing now, but that which has been set up since the beginning of time – this sexual distinction of human beings. Is it any wonder why the things that happen are happening? I don’t say they are justified at all. I believe the very opposite. But at the same time, it is society and our culture that has put this into place, just as a lot of other things in our society are happening that are equally wrong, like the things within our legal justice system.
It is horrible that any of us have to suffer at the hands of others because they can, not because it is just. Look at the prison system. Why do you think that so many men get raped and even killed in prison? Doesn’t take a very high IQ to realize that the system is established to allow it to happen.
I am doing research on the abuse and murder of special needs children vs. “normal” children. The numbers are so much higher and yet there are so many less convictions. As I am getting into this research (I have worked with special needs children for many years in school districts) it turns out that the legal system is partly (largely really) responsible. They don’t even properly categorize the children when they are found as special needs vs normal. So finding statistics that are reliable are almost impossible. And this isn’t just me speaking. There is a very articulate young man with Asperger’s who has written a lot about this. He has written an article, “My people are being murdered.” And it is very factual. The whole system is screwed up. When a special needs/emotionally disturbed child turns 22, unless they are continuing to live at home or the parents have money to keep them in a group home, they are dropped out of the system. So what do you think happens to most of them?
Yes, this is not the same thing as these women who file most of the R.O.’s, but at the same time, it all stems from the same source – societal and cultural screwed up senses of values. I could name off half a dozen other things that are equally unjust and equally caused in the long run by poor societal values. This country places more value on running around the world being the gate keepers of “freedom,” which is such a true joke, while people here in this country are suffering in so many ways. We have only to open our eyes to see the truth.
So yes, the R.O.’s that are being used abusively and aggressively are really bad, and no one who has lived through it – male or female – would disagree with that at all. But we have to go to root cause in this case. And the feminist females are just a symptom, not base cause.
Thank you for always providing us with such invigorating posts. It sure helps keep the spiderwebs out of this old mind.
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Moderator
January 14, 2015
Consider, Anne, what social dynamics you think have made this possible (comment submitted yesterday):
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